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Circular Object Captured In Telescope

(Classic Disk Type)

Recorded April 9, 2007 08:33

Updated text and video & results of size and distance.

USAF Radar Operations Supervisor gives input.

New update 07/09/07 below.


This is a reduced .gif animation @ .25 sec. delay

Full resolution video below.


More info is added periodically as extended analysis continues. All updates will be added below.

This link is the telescope and camera used. (opens in new window)


I was attempting to video the Moon as the Sun was rising as the poor results show.

This is why the video also has a yellow tint. (Good conditions of telescope videos are here).

I was looking at the Moon, not the laptop screen during the objects pass and didn't see anything unusual in the morning sky.

And I was thinking; "...that's it, conditions are getting bad."

Atmospheric conditions were deteriorating rapidly.

I didn't achieve good focus because of this but that made the object a little more in focus.

After the 30 second clip finished recording, I reviewed it as I always do to see if it was worth keeping.

When I saw this object streak by, it was one of those moments you say..."Whoa, back that up!"


The consistent Sun reflection along its top edge suggests a metallic hull.

There is also a dark area near the center of the object.
It almost looks like a "hole." The third frame looks like you can see some of the Moons features right through the hole.

Also, the lower section looks translucent in all the frames. Possibly due to the distortion from it's speed or an energy field or both.

The focus may play a part as well.


The Sun was behind the telescope to the left and slightly higher than the moon.

If it's a dome, the shadow should be forward (the direction its heading) and slightly left of that position.

But still, hard to tell. Light refraction and atmospheric conditions can alter shapes and shadows at a great distance.


There is also a faint, dark area above the reflection that looks to be on the edge of the object.

However, that dark area seems to change it's shape in some of the frames.

Initially I thought the craft could be rotating too but now I don't think so after studying the frames more.

At 30 frames-per-second, the object was captured on 6 frames but 1 frame is blank. (object already passed that frame)

So only 5 frames show each new position.


So how far away is it? And how big?

I can't scientifically answer that yet, although myself and others are working on it.


UPDATE:  Many thanks to Les Velez,  MUFON investigator from the San Jose chapter for his teams analysis.

Also to Larry Dicken, producer of the UFO Files Internet Radio Show for his input.


Here is what we now believe to be very close approximations.

Below is a new version of the "Comparison" clip with corrected data on the commuters distance.

The object's distance is around 40-50 miles, based on known aircraft altitudes and distances in this area.


It's virtually impossible to get an exact distance without triangulation or a reference point.

If it's farther than that, say 100 miles, double the size estimated.

If 200 miles....four times. At the scopes angle, about 40 above the horizon, any farther and we're leaving the atmosphere.

And this object is definitely within the atmosphere.

My estimate on it's altitude, based on known aircraft altitudes in this area (5k up to 35,000ft),

and the scopes angle would put it around 60 to 65,000 feet. And climbing.

The Moon was about 40 above horizon and all air traffic was well below my FOV and could clearly be seen without optical assistance.

The telescopes FOV was not in any of the airlines flight paths at that time.


Above Santa Cruz, there are four major air traffic approach and departure paths, going in and out of Sacramento,

San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose, from the Santa Barbara, L.A. and San Diego areas. That equates to 8 different lanes in use.

It's quite busy up there and I'm very familiar with what airliners look like through this scope near and far.


I can say it's in the atmosphere because of the massive air turbulence after it passes.

This object has enough mass to create turbulence to the point of making the Moon appear to oscillate. (update on this below)

I have never seen a conventional aircraft do that. We're convinced this object is generating an enormous amount of energy

because of it's distortion and the way it slices through the atmosphere.


So basing our calculations on the resolution of the video, comparisons of satellites and aircraft at different distances,

Les and Larry's analysis and other factors useful in determining distances, we estimate it's size to be.....

Combined illustration below.


Les's team estimated distance at around 50 miles, size at approx. 250-300 feet in diameter.

It should be noted that Les and his team did a separate analysis, independent of mine and came up with the same distance

and almost the same diameter estimations.

My estimation on distance is 40-50 miles and 5 times the size of the commuter. About the same as Les's results.

Larry contributed certain attributes about the object that is consistent with other reports, such as the energy field.

Craft courtesy of James Neff. 727 courtesy of Boeing. I overlaid the airliner at a reduced size for proportion accuracy.



  Click image to enlarge.

Goldfinger craft courtesy James Neff (webmaster at Jeff Rense site)

  (103Kb) JPG


UPDATE: 06/22/07

This new info was given to me today from a source I'm an acquaintance with but won't reveal for obvious reasons.

All I will say for now, it's from a military source:


Radar operations supervisor, USAF:


 "Jack, good to hear from you again. The clip you sent has some revealing aspects that will help eliminate known aircraft.

The turbulence is not a heat signature or air turbulence.

Traditional sharp-nosed hypersonic vehicles generate a conical bow shock wave, causing a single wave to emanate outward

but at significant velocity.

This craft seems to be projecting concentrated energy forward, forcing air radially away from the craft's path,

resulting in weaker shock ripples through the atmosphere.

That's why the Moon appears to oscillate after it passes.

I'm not aware of this particular craft in our inventory but then again, I'm not cleared to have knowledge of advanced projects."


The source also suggests "'s well beyond the sound barrier at this point.

This is my first impressions of it's flight characteristics without studying in more depth."


My source did not indicate what it is or who this may belong to and I didn't want to press the matter.

I'm lucky to have a source as this so I don't want to lose it.


I'll keep any updates near this one for convenience.

I've updated the wording below but it's able to stay in the same context.

UPDATE: -7/09/07 Comparison clip remade with added info. Information on it's speed also in the clip.

My source replied again:


"Jets, large and small leave blasts of hot exhaust that linger for several seconds and dissipates in heat waves.

Although you can see the atmospheric heat currents get pushed aside by it's shock waves,

the object doesn't create any heat signature of it's own.


An airliner's heat signature is much more noticeable than the results of it's turbulence.

Actually, large jets don't create much turbulence in flight, only on landing. And mainly from the wing tips, leaving a vortex of

turbulence in a spiral pattern. This is why small aircraft don't follow too closely when landing behind a large jet.

Before this was discovered, smaller planes could be flipped over if following too close.


Little turbulence is confirmed by observing a jet in flight that leaves a contrail. You'll notice the vapor trail stays in its position, dissipating slowly.

It is not disrupted by any of the aircraft's turbulence. And depending on conditions, it can take up to all day to dissipate."


We can dismiss satellites altogether. This object is in the atmosphere.

High altitude weather balloons have a large payload attached and would be slower. This object doesn't have anything attached to it and

is under it's own power. And none are launched anywhere near this area. There's too much commuter air traffic.


Consumer helium balloons typically don't exceed 5,000 feet at best. Including large cluster types.

And our winds come from the NW. This object is heading directly into the NW headwinds, eliminating all balloons.


We can dismiss a bird also. Characteristics don't match and a large bird farther than a couple of miles is a small dark, blurry streak

until they can't be detectable at all.


Anything closer than 100ft doesn't register in the scope. You can wave your hand in front and all you see is less light entering

the scope. No shadow, outline or distinguishable form, eliminating large flying insects and objects thrown by someone such as a Frisbee.

And let's not forget the shock-wave this object creates, eliminating everything smaller than a jumbo jet.



These are the untouched original size, resolution and format of the five frames extracted from the video.

Each are 900Kb BMP's


We can say this object is gaining altitude also by it's consistent rise in positions in each frame.



I converted the frames to jpg's, greyscaled the frames and increased the contrast only.



The best 3 of the 5 frames: (Enlarged and Brightness/Contrast Adjusted)





The best I could get with a High Pass photo filter.

It shows a definite field around the object.

No link to larger image because increasing it's

size any more would be too much.

Frame 543 (76Kb) JPG



Animated gif's of original bmp frames.

(opens in new window)

.005 second delay .02 second delay .25 second delay 1 second delay


Circular Object Edited

 and annotated.


Download Circular Object Edited (7.76Mb WMV)



The fly-by only, repeated 10 times.


Download Fly-By repeat   (1.1Mb AVI)



This is a segment showing....

Before and After Fly-By in real time.

(cropped from original video in original format)


Download Before and After Fly-By (1.3Mb AVI)




Here is a comparison with a large bird, an airliner and a satellite.

(results of size are amazing)

Note: As stated in the 07/09/07 update above,

this has been remade with updated info.




Download Comparison (48.8Mb AVI)




WMV Conversion


Download Capture 63wmv (5.4Mb) 30 seconds



An Observation:

In the famous Kenneth Arnold sighting of 1947, he drew a sketch

of his objects for the (then) Army Air Forces investigators. (he saw 9 objects)


Click to enlarge

Compare the similarity of the crescent shape craft in his sketch to the object I captured.

He states in one of his notes in this sketch that: "They seemed longer than wide".

(the notation with the arrow pointing to the object)


Then a professional artist spiffed up Arnold's sketch in his rendition.

It looks much wider but Arnold (pictured) went along possibly because of the sensationalism of the drawing,

being the first of it's kind and his notoriety as already being world news.

Whatever the reason, the sketch and drawing are not similar at all.

I think his original sketch above would be the more accurate of the two.





Just because I can...let's give it some sound

Disk/Sound Added


Download Disk/Sound (1.7Mb) AVI


This object will never be identified unless it lands in one of our yards

so I have to have a sense of humor about it....right?



So it's time for me to reveal whom I believe this object could belong too.

The USAF after back engineering, their own version or an unearthly original.


James Neff has already created an illustration on a USAF version.

Not from my video, he created this before

I captured the object but he obviously thinks the AF could have one.

Although it does look very similar to my object. Right down to the energy field.


2007 James Neff


Coincidence? I don't believe in them when it comes to this subject.

There are just too many reports of unidentified craft from around the world.

I wonder if he actually saw one that looks like his illustration?




Other Acknowledgments:


Thanks to Jeff Rense and

James Neff (webmaster and illustrator).


Also to B J at:


Be sure and check out the Apollo photo on the next page.

If there is something to this, we deserve answers. Not that we'll get any.


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